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      Cyber Nations Forum Rules   07/03/2016

        Cyber Nations Forum Rules  
      In the process of registering on this forum, all players--including you--agreed to accept these terms and conditions and the terms and conditions of Invision Power Board. In doing so you essentially signed an electronic contract pledging to have read the rules and TOS and agreeing to follow the rules and TOS as written. It is your continued responsibility to read, follow, and keep up-to-date with the CN rules.
      The following are basic guidelines for use of the Cyber Nations community forum. Anyone caught disobeying these guidelines will be issued a warning. The forum staff works on a five warn limit policy unless the situation calls for more appropriate action ranging from a verbal warning to a double warn and suspension to an immediate ban, etc.   Just because something is not listed specifically here as illegal does not mean it's allowed. All players are expected to use common sense and are personally responsible for reading the pinned threads found in the Moderation forum. Questions regarding appropriateness or other concerns can be sent via PM to an appropriate moderator.   A permanent ban on the forums results in a game ban, and vice versa. Please note that the in-game warn system works on a "three strikes you're out" policy and that in-game actions (including warnings and deletions) may not be appealed. For more information regarding in-game rules please read the Cyber Nations Game Rules.   1.) First Warning
      2.) Second Warning
      3.) Third Warning (48 hour suspension at the forum)
      4.) Fourth Warning (120 hour suspension at the forum)
      5.) Permanent Ban   Game Bans and Forum Bans
      If you receive a 100% warn level on the forums, you will be subject to removal from the forums AND have your nation deleted and banned from the game at moderator(s) discretion.   If you are banned in the game, then you will be banned from the forums.   Process of Appeals
      Players may not appeal any in-game actions. This includes cheat flags, canceled trades, content removals, warn level increases, nation deletion, and bans from the game.   Players may appeal individual forum warnings. You may only appeal a warning if you can show with evidence that it was unwarranted or unduly harsh. If a reasonable amount of time has passed (no less than one month and preferably longer) in which you have demonstrated reformed behavior than you may request a warning level reduction. Wasting staff time with inappropriately filed reports and/or unfounded appeals will result in a warn level raise. Repeat incidences will result in a ban from the forum.   Bans are permanent. Banned players may appeal to the Senior Staff if they believe grounds exist (very, very rare) in which they state their case with evidence and why explain why they believe they deserve to be allowed back into Cyber Nations. This process is not quick and the investigation into cases may last three minutes or three weeks or more depending on the individual situation.   The only place where discussion of moderator action is acceptable is in the appropriate Moderation forum. Posting commentary on or disagreement with moderator action elsewhere will result in a warn level raise.   Posting
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      Gravedigging is not allowed anywhere on the forums. Gravedigging is "bumping" old topics which haven't been active for quite some time (four to seven days is standard depending on the nature of the thread and how many pages back it had been pushed before bump). Your warn level will be raised if you are caught doing this.   The Suggestion Box and Black Market forums are partial exceptions to this rule. Suggestions/ideas in that forum may be posted in regardless of age PROVIDING that the reviving post contains constructive, on-topic input to the original topic or discussion. Black Market threads may be bumped by the author if there is new information about the offered exchange (i.e open aid slots). In the Player Created Alliances forum it will not be considered gravedigging to bump a topic up to a year old, so long as the alliance in question still exists and it is not a duplicate thread.   Signatures
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      With the exception of moderators, if you are caught with multiple forum accounts, the multiple account(s) will be banned, warn level raised, and your identity will be announced by a moderator to the CN community so rule-abiding players can take IC action against you. Multiple forum account offenders will receive a varying percentage warn level raise and/or a permanent ban on a case-by-case basis.   Posting For Other Players
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  1. Mithrandir
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    By Mithrandir,

    The Suggestion Box has returned to no longer requiring topics to be approved by moderation before they can be commented on.


    Bear in mind that the standard forum rules still apply to submitting and commenting on suggestions. Any suggestions which do not adequately explain the ideas being proposed, advertise other games, degrade into a flame war, are excessively repeated, and so forth will be subject to locking or removal at the discretion of the moderation staff.


    As an example say I wished to propose the addition of cities which each nation could create. The role of my suggestion thread would be to explain how this featured would work if it were added to Cyber Nations. Discussing how other games utilize this mechanic is irrelevant to justify my idea since I am trying to make a case for why and how it should be added here.


    Thank you.

  2. Today marks the 10 year anniversary of Cyber Nations. I always like to look back on history and it seems appropriate to do so today, so here we go.

    I registered the Cyber Nations domain name in 2003 with the hopes of creating a web based nation simulation game but I was unable to come up with a working model and I quickly abandoned the project. I let the domain name sit idle for a year and decided to let it go in 2004 since I couldn't find a use for it. In 2005 my interest was sparked again and so I re-registered the domain name on May 22, 2005 in the hopes to get a game up and running but once again I was unable to lay down any real code structure. Finally on December 24, 2005, during my Christmas break from work, I sat down and really began developing the game. I spent the majority of my Christmas break glued to the computer in hopes to get a working game rolled out by the first of the year before I lost interest in the project for a third time.

    The game was launched on January 6, 2006 with little fan fare and with very few features. The early game was quite buggy with major issues plaguing the entire economic system that originally did not include tax collection or bill payment systems. Other features like the resource and trade agreement system, foreign aid system, national events, nation rankings, government position, improvements, wonders, technology, aircraft, tanks, nuclear weapons, and cruise missiles were added months after the initial release date as the game continued to be a work in progress. The few players who originally discovered the game did so by way of Google AdWords but word quickly got around to other gaming communities and the system began to become overrun as it was originally had only a Microsoft Access database backend and hosted via a shared hosting provider. At that time the community forums also ran on a Microsoft Access database version of Snitz Forums 2000 and it existed as a subfolder on the same shared hosting server as the game.

    During the first couple of weeks the server began returning “Service Unavailable” errors in which numerous attempts were made to resolve. Such attempts included converting the game database to a MS-SQL database (I had just completed an SQL Server course in college during that same month) and moving the community forums to Invision Free, an offsite forum hosting provider. Still the “Service Unavailable” problems persisted and the game was moved to another shared hosting provider but the problem was not finally resolved until the game was moved to its own dedicated server. The game still has it's traffic bottlenecks, that's unavoidable due to the way the game was designed and played, but throughout the years a myriad of dedicated servers have kept the game alive.

    So much has transpired over the years, so many players have come and gone, so many fascinating geopolitics and world wars, so many friends made. I'm amazed that there are nations still in the game that were created the very same month that the Cyber Nations was born, with their tiny 3 digit nation ID's, they've seen it all. Those ancient alliances that were all created during that same month, Global Alliance And Treaty Organization, Orange Defense Network, New Pacific Order, World Task Force, Green Protection Agency, alive and still strong (some stronger than others). As I said before, I never would have imagined that the game would still be around after all these years (heck I always figured it would sputter out after a few months which was evident at the initial lack of planning and hosting infrastructure) and while the game has seen much larger player base populations in the past (at times it was too large imo) I'm happy to see that the game continues to have such a loyal following after so many years. Thank you to everyone who has been part of the journey.

    I leave you with some old relics of the past. This first one is kind of embarrassing given my horrible handwriting (I generally write much better than this, unless I'm in frantic note taking mode). Here I scratched out some thoughts on 3/15/2003. I still chuckle at the question that I posed at the bottom, as I don't believe that one has yet been answered:

    The first logo for the game:

    This is the very first image of the game as I was coding it in December 2005 on the old Compaq monitor that I was so glued to. I'm glad that High Contrast theme did not survive very long.

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    Note: This essay requires a basic understanding of the principles of civilization laid out in the Meaning of Freedom.


    Back in 2016 I briefly suggested what could lead to a revival of moralism here:



    "I do think that any rejuvenation of moralism won't be by that name or necessarily looking much like Dajobo's NpO or the Cult of Justicia, but will instead be a result of tired nations choosing for themselves alliances with stable and codified FA approaches."


    My comment was ignored, but as the subject came up recently, I thought this would be a chance to discuss my thoughts on the issue. When the concept of Realpolitik comes up, images of immoral Machiavellian plots and shady back-alley scheming no doubt comes to mind. But when we examine the origins of the term...




    The term Realpolitik was coined by Ludwig von Rochau, a German writer and politician in the 19th century.[1] His 1853 book Grundsätze der Realpolitik angewendet auf die staatlichen Zustände Deutschlands describes the meaning of the term:[2]

    The study of the forces that shape, maintain and alter the state is the basis of all political insight and leads to the understanding that the law of power governs the world of states just as the law of gravity governs the physical world. The older political science was fully aware of this truth but drew a wrong and detrimental conclusion—the right of the more powerful. The modern era has corrected this unethical fallacy, but while breaking with the alleged right of the more powerful one, the modern era was too much inclined to overlook the real might of the more powerful and the inevitability of its political influence.

    Historian John Bew suggests that much of what stands for modern realpolitik today deviates from the original meaning of the term. Realpolitik emerged in mid-19th century Europe from the collision of the enlightenment with state formation and power politics. The concept, Bew argues, was an early attempt at answering the conundrum of how to achieve liberal enlightened goals in a world that does not follow liberal enlightened rules.



    This essay will primarily address the bolded text above: If we accept that the Imperium represents a form of post-revolutionary enlightenment, then how do we advance our way of playing in a contemporary world that has often rejected morality? What is morality?


    The Producerist Renaissance


    Producerism represents a renaissance of classical CN materialism as first interpreted by Vladimir, from the viewpoint of the modern liberated tech producer and our upper-tier supporters. At first glance, materialism and morality wouldn't seem to share much in common. The Moralism described during the Cult of Justitia era was often divorced from an analysis of material reality. As a result, it tended to lose value as it became a rhetorical weapon used conveniently against one's more powerful adversaries.


    As wryly stated by one critic of Moralism:


    Some of the arbitrary positions taken by moralists, such as an anti-raiding stance against non-aligned nations, were based more on feelings than the material reality of the world. In the case of the Imperium, there have been times when raiding ended with the recruitement new members. These new members were then able to achieve a greater potential for economic growth and cultural development than was possible in the dark, dangerous existence of the <5000 NS zone.


    So, we are not interested in morality without substance.


    The Threat of the Sociopath


    However, there were and continue to be cases of nation rulers and even major alliances with a functional understanding of material reality completely divorced from any sort of morality. While the moralists could sometimes be a nuisance, the more sociopathic members of the global community would prove to be a real threat. On a more isolated level, rogues like Khan understand how to leverage their upper-tier warchests to cause maximum destruction to smaller nations. Bands of pillagers ranging from Mushqaeda to Monsters Inc have dominated much of the political discussion over the last few years. Wars like the Plutocratic War waged against the Imperium caused much more lasting damage that took months to repair.


    From the perspective of a sociopath, why attempt a productive existence when one can wreak seemingly unlimited destruction?


    The answer is the fact that according to most studies, more than 95% of the population is not sociopathic. The majority of nation-rulers are loyal members of their alliances, follow the rules, and otherwise participate constructively. Although many nation-rulers don't necessarily understand advanced concepts like material analysis, they intuitively understand the basics related to it such as the need for mutual stability in order to grow their nations.


    National Self Interest


    While individuals have different preferences, desires and goals, all nations have the same basic self-interests as outlined by Vladimir:


    "The self-interest of every nation is to remove itself from the state of nature: to give up its absolute freedom with the resulting removal of perpetual terror. It is in doing this that the individual nation will naturally come to sign a social contract and band together with other nations in an alliance, which allows them to concern themselves less with the matter of survival and instead concentrate on achieving their potential in other fields."


    The sovereign is charged with the necessity of lifting member-nations out of Chaos, the state of nature:


    "The sovereign thus becomes the centre that the rest of the alliance revolves around. It is a sovereign and only a sovereign that can have the strength and authority to provide stability in the face of the natural conflict that goes on all around it, both inside and outside of the alliance."


    Realpolitik as defined by John Bew is inseparable from morality. Our enlightenment is centered around the idea that progress is based on the "forward march of civilisation against the barbarism of absolute freedom." Our first duty therefore is the protection of our comrades, whether we are an Emperor or a new recruit, this duty remains the same. Even when the use of military force offensively is necessary, it is predicated on self-defense, which is why the Casus Belli is required to explain why an offensive war is necessary to our collective defense.


    The Conditional Treaty


    A war of aggression should not be unconditionally supported. One of the major problems with the treaty web is that a series of MDoAP links together alliances in a way that can drag an otherwise unobservant alliance into a conflict that isn't in its own self-interest. Alliances should never find themselves baited into joining a conflict, nor should they be unthinkingly chained into a conflict some distant ally of an ally started. The term meatshield came into use because of the tendency of some alliances to support a treaty partner unwaveringly without regards to the context of the operation, thus dissipating resources and weakening the membership.


    ODoAPs and MnDoAPs (nonchaining) tend to be wiser. In the case of the Imperium, we will always provide some level of support to allies, whether diplomatic assistance, rebuilding aid, or military action. However, we have no intention of ever being dragged into unwinnable conflicts with unclear political objectives at the cost of our own membership.


    There are of course risks inherent with the conditional treaty approach: One can find themselves isolated in the event of a "curbstomp," and it takes a high level of activity to maintain the alliance against an attack. Many alliances choose the "meatshield" path because it is easier, but in doing so they cede a certain degree of their sovereignty, and in effect, sacrifice their own ambitions to become a satellite.


    However, with active leadership in place, a reliance on conditional treaties provides increased political flexibility and the opportunity to pursue a morally consistent realpolitik agenda. This means a membership that is less prone to war fatigue and more willing to fight when it really counts.


    Increasing Civilization


    In an ideal world, all major political actors would act in the same manner the Imperium does. However, as John Bew noted, we find ourselves trying to advance enlightenment goals in an world that is sometimes outright hostile to them. Thus our realpolitik stance is our attempt to navigate the dangerous politics of CN, true to our principles, without being stomped out of existence.


    The Imperium was formed from the merger of ancient alliances like MCXA and LoSS. As we defend and advance this tiny surviving faction of civilization, we have found that morality and realpolitik have organically grown intertwined from the success of the stability we imposed in our corner of the world.

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  4. September 2007, the Libertarian Empire was founded.


    The Libertarian Empire was recruited by an alliance based on Libertariainism. These were the Golden Days.




    Thanks to efficient aid programs within the FCC, the Libertarian Empire managed to grow into the top 5% in order to purchase its first nuclear missile. This was back when being the top 5% allowed you to buy nukes, MPs came out no long after.


    When MK got rolled by NPO, I decided to go join the MK AA to assist them; since I knew opposition would be to great for the alliance to get involved.


    After this along with some other former FCC members, we formed Onyx Hand. Although the alliance didn't really grow.. Eventually Onyx Hand merged into the FCC and a new Charter was created; which centralized more power around a King..


    I ended up get nominated and everyone voted in favor of me,, except one person abstained..This brought in a new age of prosperity for the FCC, as the alliance grew rapidly with efficient aid program for both growth and making every nation nuclear capable. Relations within The Citadel improved and eventually Continuum was defeated with The Citadel and FCC playing their part..


    After NPO's defeat, there wasn't much going on. No major threats, so activity was down.. Eventually I resigned after a founder made a huge fuss and I made my biggest mistake; I resigned.


    Once I resigned here was no going back to how things were. The FCC slowly deteriorated without strong leadership & I occupied myself by battle after battle against uphill odds; as I was lost without the FCC and in search for a purpose. I lost count of how many wars I fought, but the FCC was golden years of CN and once I resigned it was never the same.


    What I loved most about CN was gone, the Libertarian Community called the FCC. When first joining I quickly became elected a Senator, then I was appointed a High Court Judge not long before I left to help MK..Then I was crowned King upon  my return. Even with the LPC, it couldn't compare to what I had lost with the FCC. When I resigned from the FCC,, I might as well have deleted my nation then. Since ever since I was just lost soul wandering from battlefield to battlefield in search of some meaning.


    What made the FCC great was they made sure to build up all nations accepted up to 5k infra with their Massive Aid Bomb Program. Also the alliance was idealogy based, so everyone shared a common interest in discussing Libertarianism and Anarchism. Until I declared on IRON as King of FCC in the Karma War; FCC had never fought in a war. They prefered to apply the non-aggression principle to foreign policy as well. Although it was the community which made it great, where debating Libertarian & Anarchism with people made it my favorite forum to just discuss non-CN related things as well.


    For me the best part of CN died with the FCC, none of my other accomplishments after compared to the feeling of success and satisfaction of rising up the ranks within the FCC.


    The Fifth Column Confederation is what got me hooked on Cybernations and there will never be an alliance which can match it.


    Forever Fifth Column Confederation will be remembered as the greatest alliance in Cybernations and never will there be an alliance which can match it.


    Some say nothing lasts forever, although my biggest regret was not ensuring the FCC was still alive and well today. Its something which can never be replicated.


    Never Forget the Fifth Column Confederation, the most Libertarian Ideological Based alliance this game has ever seen.


    When the FCC was gone, my reason for sticking around was gone. Although I couldn't bring myself to push that delete button for a long time.


    While Cybernations has had its ups and downs, thinking about when CN was really something special; it was the FCC which was my reason for playing.


    What I miss more than my nation, Senate Seat, the LPC or anything else is the FCC. The community was something special, also being part of The Citadel made for another special community, ,which I cherished and miss. OG, Gremlins, TOP & Umbrella all hold a special place in my memories as well.


    The Citadel was truly a special bloc as well and its to bad we'll never see anything like it again.








    Methrage, Senator, High Court Judge & King of the FCC

  5. Noticed that i posted my Mock Draft here once ... back in 2011. lol


    Six years later, here is my most recent mock. It's from before the Senior Bowl, right when the practices had started.


    Not sure how many NFL fans are still left here (that aren't already on my FB and have already seen this), but ...


    Round 1:
    1. Cleveland Browns - Myles Garrett, OLB/DE, Texas A&M
    Needs: QB, Edge, CB, RB, OL
    Garrett is the currently the consensus #1 overall player and would finally give the Browns a pass rusher that other teams have to account for. They have a lot of needs with quarterback the usual concern, but I don’t think they will reach for one in a weak QB class. The current Browns regime seems to be more cautious and could also trade down since they do have two first round picks (again).
    2. San Francisco 49ers - DeShaun Watson, QB, Clemson
    Needs: QB, WR, OL, DL, LB
    This is a bad year to need a quarterback, but the Niners are one of the teams that finds themselves in that situation. The top signal caller in the draft is far from settled at this point, but the Niners should have their pick. Watson is currently riding high on his National Championship performance and while this will likely change several times, here in v1.0 I am sending him to San Francisco.
    3. Chicago Bears - Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama
    Needs: QB, CB, S, OL, WR
    The Bears also need a QB, but with head coach John Fox on the hot seat, I don’t see them reaching for one here. All the QBs in this class will need a lot of development and Fox simply doesn’t have the time. Instead, he will focus on the defense and take the best available defender which is hands down Allen who is a disruptive force that can play a variety of positions on the d-line.
    4. Jacksonville Jaguars - Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU
    Needs: S, RB, OL, Edge
    After the success of the Cowboys many teams will be more apt to use a high pick on a running back, which was unheard of in previous years. The Jags, of course, need offensive line help more but there are no tackles worth taking this high. The team will definitely consider one of the highly touted safeties (Jamal Adams and Malik Hooker), but ultimately settle on Fournette in this mock. He is a rare blend of speed and power and should take some of the pressure off of young quarterback Blake Bortles.
    5. Tennessee Titans - Jamal Adams, S, LSU
    Needs: DB, WR, TE
    The Titans will have two main focuses: their secondary and wide receivers. With two first round picks, they could conceivably fill both needs with their first two picks. Here in the Top 10, they will nab arguably the best safety in this year’s draft, Jamal Adams. Adams has been compared to future Hall of Famer Ed Reed and could anchor a revamped secondary for years to come.
    6. New York Jets - Teez Tabor, CB, Florida
    Needs: CB, QB, OLB
    This is a tougher pick than it should be. The Jets took quarterback Christian Hackenberg in the 2nd round last season, which was considered a reach at the time. Hackenberg ended up not even suiting up for a game until injuries forced the issue. Despite being out of contention and already knowing that Ryan Fitzpatrick was not part of their 2017 plan, the team still started Fitzpatrick over Hackenberg to close out the season. That speaks volumes about the level of confidence the team has in Hackenberg ... but do they give up on a second-round investment so soon? In v1.0, I am going to go with “no”.
    While they will most definitely take another young QB in this draft, in the 1st round they will try and fix their leaky secondary. This is an extremely deep cornerback class and the pecking order is still up for heated debate. Some see Tabor as the #1 corner, others see him as a late 1st/early 2nd pick. He certainly has swagger though and if he lives up to the talk, could be just what the secondary needs.
    7. Los Angeles Chargers - Malik Hooker, S, OSU
    Needs: OL, S, WR
    The Chargers actually have some great young talent, especially on defense. CB Jason Verrett, Edge rushers Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram (who I think will be tagged), and linebackers Jatavis Brown and Denzel Perryman form a very good young core. They definitely missed safety Eric Weddle though after letting him leave in free agency last season. Some of the team’s late game meltdowns might have been avoided with an intimidating presence in the middle. Malik Hooker is fast and a hard hitting player that would possibly give new defensive coordinator Gus Bradley his Earl Thomas.
    8. Carolina Panthers - Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee
    Needs: OL, Edge, RB
    The temptation to take running back Dalvin Cook will be there and most mock drafts agree. I certainly understand that and might ultimately come to the same conclusion. The team also desperately needs help on the offensive line (as usual) but again, there aren’t any players worth taking here. They could proceed anyway (and just might), but in this mock I am going to have them address the pass rush. Charles Johnson has lost a step, Kony Ealy has not developed as the team had hoped, and designated pass rusher Mario Addison might get overpayed in free agency. Aside from Myles Garrett, the team could potentially have their pick of the best pass rushers in this year’s draft. Barnett has been climbing, but there are questions about his speed and athleticism as he relies solely on strength to overpower blockers. That won’t work at the pro level, but some scouts feel he has more burst than some realize.
    9. Cincinnati Bengals - Solomon Thomas, DE/OLB, Stanford
    Needs: Edge, CB, ILB
    Should the Panthers pass on Barnett, the Bengals will be tempted to snatch him up. They will also take a long look at linebacker Reuben Foster here, but simply cannot ignore their pass rush. Thomas is flying up draft boards and is extremely explosive but not very big. This calls into question whether or not he can play 4-3 end though some feel his long arms will make up for it. Either way, whoever drafts him will find a place for him to play and let him loose on opposing quarterbacks.
    10. Buffalo Bills - DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame
    Needs: WR, OT, DB, QB
    In this mock the Bills have decided to let Tyrod Taylor go, which I think is a mistake. While the team has needs on defense, o-line, and receiver, this decision leaves a massive hole at quarterback and the team is almost forcing themselves to draft one. As we head towards the Combine and Pro Days, some of these quarterbacks will move up and be over-drafted out of desperation. In this mock though, that has not happened yet. So, the Bills will nab DeShone Kizer, who has all the tools but is extremely raw. Kizer is not a Day One starter though so the team will also be in the market for a veteran placeholder.
    11. New Orleans Saints - Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama
    Needs: Edge, ILB, CB
    It seems like the Saints need a corner every season, but usually pass. This is a deep corner class, but the team can’t pass on a talent like Foster who might ultimately go even higher. Foster is a thumper inside who can also cover which is rare in college linebackers. He compares favorably to Seattle’s Bobby Wagner and can do a little bit of everything. The Saints will hopefully take advantage of a great CB class in round 2 but will pass here if Foster is available.
    12. Cleveland Browns - Mitch Trubisky, QB, UNC
    Needs: QB, Edge, CB, RB, OL
    Much like Kizer at #10, there is a good chance that Trubisky won’t actually be here when it’s all said and done. In this mock he is though and the Browns will feel comfortable taking a QB since they have a lot of picks. Physically, Trubisky is everything you want in a quarterback. He has good size, a good arm, and can throw on the run. The problem with Trubisky is that he only has one year of starting experience and that year was in a spread offense so he will need coaching. Head coach Hue Jackson will more than likely be content with RG3 and Cody Kessler at the top of the depth chart while Trubisky develops.
    13. Arizona Cardinals - Marshon Lattimore, CB, OSU
    Needs: CB, WR, QB, ILB
    The Cardinals certainly need a quarterback to develop behind a rapidly aging Carson Palmer, but I think that Arians feels that they are not all that far away from competing again and won’t want to take one so early ... not that any are still available in this mock anyway. The team also has their pick of wide receivers and will be tempted to take one here. Larry Fitzgerald is nearing the end, perennial disappointment Malcolm Floyd was released, and the rest of the roster is full of deep threats and slot receivers.
    Tough call here, but I have the team getting help for a position that Bruce Arians publicly called out during the season. Special teams ace Justin Bethel was forced into duty and struggled, former college running back Brandon Williams has a ways to go, and while Marcus Cooper led the team in interceptions he was awful in coverage. Lattimore is not the fastest corner, but he is big, technically sound, and has all the tools to be a shutdown player if he can stay healthy.
    14. Indianapolis Colts - Dalvin Cook, RB, FSU
    Needs: OL, Edge, CB, RB, ILB, S
    The Colts almost need an entirely new defense and they have never been good at keeping Andrew Luck upright and need O-line help. So, of course, they will take a running back.
    While it is not their #1 need, it is definitely A need with the seemingly immortal Frank Gore finally seeing the end of the road and zero depth behind him. Cook is a dual purpose threat who would bring a new dimension to the Colt offense. He’s ultra quick, plays well in space, and has excellent hands.
    15. Philadelphia Eagles - Mike Williams, WR, Clemson
    Needs: CB, WR, RB
    In my opinion, the Eagles need a corner more than a wide receiver ... though it is VERY close. With one of the (if not THE) best receivers in the draft staring them in the face, they won’t be able to pass on him. Nelson Agholor has been terrible and Jordan Matthews strikes me as more of a #2 (or #3) receiver than a go-to player. Williams has the sort of size/speed combination that offensive coordinators look for in a #1 receiver. He will have to adjust to the speed of the NFL, needs to polish up his route running, and has routinely out-muscled corners at the college level but is coachable and could become Carson Wentz’s favorite target.
    16. Baltimore Ravens - Takkarist McKinley, OLB, UCLA
    Needs: Edge, CB, WR
    In order for the Ravens to truly get their defense back where it was in the past, they will need a better pass rush. Elvis Dumervil is no doubt done and Terrell Suggs is finally showing signs of age. McKinley is a name to watch heading into the draft. He has one of the quicker first steps in this year’s class, but is extremely raw. With some coaching and technique work, he could develop into a dominant pass rusher. Grades out as the perfect edge rusher for Suggs to eventually pass the torch to.
    17. Washington Redskins - Malik McDowell, DE/DT, Michigan State
    Needs: CB, S, DT, RB, ILB
    For a team that nearly made the playoffs, the Redskins have a lot of needs. Potentially losing receiver DeSean Jackson to free agency, Washington could eye a speed receiver here with so many left on the board. They could also consider nabbing a member of this deep corner class with the rapid decline of young corner Rashaud Breeland.
    With a high end prospect like Malik McDowell still here at #17 though, I think the Redskins will be hard pressed to let him pass by. McDowell has some issues with effort, but the physical skills are all there. He is ultra quick and strong, capable of playing end in both a 3-4 and 4-3 alignment, or at tackle in a 4-3.
    18. Tennessee Titans - Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan
    Needs: CB, WR, TE
    The Titans would be ecstatic to see Corey Davis here. After addressing the safety position with their first pick, they could go corner here as well. Davis is just too talented to pass up though, especially for a team that lacks an elite receiver.
    Davis is fast, has a great work ethic, and is one of the better route runners I’ve seen coming out of college. It shouldn’t take him too long to acclimate to the pro game and he could actually go much higher than this in my final mock.
    19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Jabrill Peppers, S, Michigan
    Needs: WR, S, Edge
    Every year there is a player or two on defense who are labeled as “tweeners” with no true position which causes them to fall. That is starting to become less common as defensive coordinators are becoming increasingly adept at finding roles for players who are talented enough.
    Peppers played safety, linebacker, corner, and returner at the college level. He’s a dynamic player with insane range. The knock on him is that he didn’t force many turnovers in college and didn’t defend many passes. Once he locks into a position at the NFL level though (which should be safety), the thinking is that that might change. The Bucs have safeties who are tough and solid tacklers but are slow and are not overly athletic. Peppers would fix that from day one.
    20. Denver Broncos - Forrest Lamp, OG/OT, Western Kentucky
    Needs: OL, TE, RB, WR
    A lot of experts feel that the offensive struggles for the Broncos was due to a poor running game and quarterback play ... and they wouldn’t be wrong. Compounding those issues though, was the play of their offensive line. Free agent tackle acquisitions Russell Okung and Donald Stephenson ranged from mediocre to awful and guards Max Garcia and Micheal Schofield were merely serviceable.
    Forrest Lamp played tackle in college but is probably more suited for guard in the NFL, but might be able to fill in at tackle if need be. Lamp gained attention in draft circles when he stone walled the Alabama pass rushers, who are NFL bound. He might never be an All-Pro, but has a high floor and limited bust potential.
    21. Detroit Lions - Sidney Jones, CB, Washington
    Needs: Edge, CB, RB, ILB
    The Lions would love to have ILB Reuben Foster, but he is long gone. Instead, they could go for fellow ILB Zack Cunningham from Vanderbilt, but don’t pull the trigger here. Instead, they take advantage of the number of good to great corners and nab Sidney Jones from Washington.
    The Lions already have Darius Slay on one side (who should have been in a couple of Pro Bowls by now) and like the progress that Nevin Lawson (2014, 4th round) has made but if you’re going to face Aaron Rodgers twice a year then you’re going to need all the corner talent you can get. Jones will need to add some muscle without losing his speed, but is technically sound, very athletic, and has all the tools to be a shutdown corner.
    22. Miami Dolphins - O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama
    Needs: LB, Edge, TE, OL
    Miami is about to have a big hole at tight end. Jordan Cameron is probably going to retire due to concussions. Dion Sims showed a knack for getting in the end zone this season (4 TDs) but is a free agent, and journeyman MarQueis Gray flashed some potential but is more of a backup.
    Howard is already a phenomenal blocker in an era where pass catching tight ends typically struggle to do so. He was not used much as a receiver at Alabama but made plays when called upon. At Senior bowl practices he was practically unguardable and has the potential to be a great all-around tight end.
    23. New York Giants - Taco Charlton, DE, Michigan
    Needs: Edge, RB, TE, LB
    Defensive End Jason Pierre-Paul is not going to give the Giants a team friendly one-year deal this time around and will no doubt hit free agency. While the Giants would love to retain him, they simply won’t be able to after already opening up the pocketbook last season to fix the defense. They will need to rely on the draft to fill some holes this time around.
    Charlton was inconsistent, but is no doubt talented. He’s a freakish athlete who will initially struggle against the run, but is coachable and should already be a solid pass rusher.
    24. Oakland Raiders - Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama
    Needs: ILB, CB, DT
    A few minor issues aside, the Raiders are pretty set on offense and will need to improve their below average defense in order to take the next step as a team. They will no doubt have their eye on ILB Reuben Foster and DT Malik McDowell but since both are gone in this mock they will focus on corner where they will need to replace disappointing former 1st rounder, D.J. Hayden.
    Humphrey looks the part. He has the size, speed, and athleticism that teams look for but needs to work on his ball skills. That’s not a deal breaker though because while you cannot teach speed or athleticism, you can teach technique.
    25. Houston Texans - Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama
    Needs: DT/NT, OL, ILB, QB
    Not that it matters since the top QBs are now off the board, but no, I don’t believe that the Texans are going to pull the plug on Brock Osweiler after one season. Sorry Houston fans, you’re probably going to deal with a Osweiler vs. Savage competition in 2017.
    The Texans might be scouring the draft for a replacement for nose tackle Vince Wilfork who is all but certain to retire. They will also be in the market for a thumper a linebacker to line up next to Benardrick McKinney. Ultimately though, I think they will opt to solidify an offensive line that was troublesome in 2016. Unlike past seasons, there are no elite tackle prospects in this year’s class so, unless someone reaches, the Texans should have a shot at the top tackles.
    Once upon a time, Robinson actually was considered an elite prospect but inconsistent play has dragged him down. Even still, he is massive and athletic which is a rare combination so he has the physical attributes to at the very least be a solid starter, at the most a Pro Bowl player. The bust potential is there though.
    26. Seattle Seahawks - Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin
    Needs: OG, OT, CB, DT
    Seattle almost has to be locked in on offensive line for the first couple of picks in this draft. It is almost laughable watching their line, bereft of talent, try and block NFL pass rushers. Amazingly enough, the Seahawks are a perennial playoff team despite this deficiency. Imagine what they’d accomplish WITH a line?
    Ramczyk is about as safe of a pick at tackle as it gets and could potentially go higher than this. Coming out of Wisconsin, he has already learned an NFL system and should be a Week 1 starter. His ceiling isn’t quite as high as other prospects, but his floor is much higher.
    27. Kansas City Chiefs - Tre’Davious White, CB, LSU
    Needs: ILB, WR, CB, OL
    The Chiefs could not stop running back Le’Veon Bell in the playoffs during the first half, mostly due to the loss of inside linebacker Derrick Johnson weeks before. That position will need to be addressed in the first few rounds of the draft to either be a future replacement, or a current replacement for Johnson who will turn 35 next season and is returning from a second season ending injury. Kansas City will almost certainly look to add more weapons on offense as well at wide receiver and running back.
    In this mock draft, however, they nab one of the better cover corners in this class. White is not known for his tackling skill and is not very big, but he is fast and is capable of eliminating a team’s #1 receiver at the college level. If he pans out, the Chiefs could have the best young corner tandem in the league. White is a rising prospect though who could ultimately land in the top 15-20 picks.
    28. Dallas Cowboys - John Ross, WR, Washington
    Needs: Edge, CB, TE, DT
    No, receiver isn’t a top need for Dallas. I wouldn’t even put it in their top four, to be honest. Having said that, Ross’ game breaking speed is too much to pass up. Far too often, the Cowboy offense stalled due to lack of reliable targets. Dez and Witten are outstanding when healthy, but Terence Williams has simply dropped too many passes to be counted on.
    Ross is a homerun threat every time he touches the ball and while he usually lines up in the slot (Cole Beasley’s territory), he has the ability to play outside as well and can be a deep threat that takes the top off of defenses.
    29. Green Bay Packers - Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida
    Needs: RB, CB, Edge
    For a playoff team, the Pack could potentially have a lot of holes. Several members of their vaunted offensive line are free agents, leading pass rusher Nick Perry (11.5 sacks) is also a free agent, veteran Julius Peppers is nearing the end of his career, Clay Matthews is rapidly declining, their young secondary was obliterated by Matt Ryan in the playoffs, and top corner Sam Shields still has not cleared concussion protocol four months after being placed on IR.
    The team did draft corners previously (Damarious Randall 1st round 2015, Quinten Rollins 2nd round 2015), but they were pressed into more snaps than they were ready for in 2016. Last season proved that you can never have too many corners and this is definitely the year to add one. Wilson isn’t the most athletic corner in this draft, but he’s physical and tough. He is ideal as a nickel corner who can also slide to safety if needed, but should eventually push for a starting role.
    30. Pittsburgh Steelers - Charles Harris, DE/OLB, Missouri
    Needs: WR, Edge, ILB, TE
    A lot of mocks have the Steelers taking a wide receiver here, but they have had a lot of success finding pass catchers in later rounds and this season will likely be no different. They will be tempted to snag one of the tight ends from what is a very deep class, but ultimately I think they will shore up the position they are best known for: linebacker.
    The team can’t possibly be interested in bringing back first round disappointment Jarvis Jones and while veteran James Harrison says he will be back for another season, he’s pushing 40 and an eventual replacement is necessary. Harris needs some work in run defense, but he is a talented pass rusher that would serve as a reserve/passing down specialist until he grows into the full time role.
    31. Atlanta Falcons - Tim Williams, OLB, ALabama
    Needs: Edge, OG, DT
    As great as pass usher Vic Beasley was this season, the Falcons need more pass rushers in the worst way. Be it inside at tackle or an edge rusher, Atlanta needs to ensure that opposing offenses can’t neutralize Beasley, who led the NFL in sacks in 2016.
    Aside from potential #1 overall pick Myles Garrett, there’s probably not a better pass rusher in this draft than Williams. He is explosive and insanely quick, able to completely disrupt an offense when he’s let loose. Unfortunately, that’s all he’s shown to be skilled at so far and is easily fooled by screen passes and misdirection. It’s possible that coaching can correct that, but if not then whichever team drafts Williams might just have to accept that he is a pass rusher and nothing more. An amazing pass rusher, but only a pass rusher.
    32. New England Patriots - David Njoku, TE, Miami
    Needs: OL, TE, S, Edge
    It’s always difficult to write up a mock on the New England Patriots for two reasons: 1. Bill Belichick is unpredictable and 2. they routinely trade down. This season will probably be no different and the Pats will trade out of the 1st round. Since I do not do trades in my mock drafts, I am going to have to take a stab at this pick anyway.
    Belichick is not afraid of doubling down on a position if he feels the talent and versatility is there. As great as Rob Gronkowski is, he does have a history of injuries. Fellow tight end Martellus Bennett played exceptionally well, but might cash in during free agency. Belichick likes employing two athletic tight ends to take advantage of mismatches but due to Gronk’s health and the arrest of Aaron Hernandez, he hasn’t been able to maximize that for awhile.
    Njoku is possibly the most athletic and explosive tight end in this draft and the only thing keeping him behind O.J.Howard is experience. Njoku is a former wide receiver and high jumper, but is extremely raw and will need to work on the nuances of the game. New England would be a perfect place for that, if he’s still here after no doubt posting insane Combine numbers.
    Round 2:
    33. Cleveland Browns: Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State
    A scout called starting corner Joe Haden the “oldest 27 year old in the NFL”. Haden can’t seem to stay healthy and when he’s on the field does not look like the shutdown corner from the past. He could bounce back and former Dolphin Jamar Taylor had a nice season on the other side, but the team needs more reliable DBs. Conley could sneak into the 1st round, but with so many top corner prospects some will fall into the 2nd and 3rd.
    34. San Francisco 49ers: Caleb Brantley, DT/NT, Florida
    The Niners have a lot of needs, so they can go several directions. A new head coach means a new coaching staff and defensive coordinator Jim O’Neil was probably on the chopping block either way so it’s unclear what sort of alignment the Niners will use. Brantley can play nose tackle in a 3-4 as well as tackle in a 4-3.
    35. Jacksonville Jaguars: Garrett Bolles, OT, Utah
    Running back in the 1st, offensive tackle in the 2nd. The Jags would be ecstatic if Boles were still here at #35.
    36. Chicago Bears: Adoree Jackson, CB, USC
    The Bears will look at quarterbacks again, but I have a tough time seeing John Fox put his faith and future in one. I would not be shocked if the Bears retain Brian Hoyer and Matt Barkley and instead improve their defense. Jackson has 1st round talent in a loaded class.
    37. Los Angeles Rams: Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson
    The Rams sorely missed Janoris Jenkins after letting him leave in free agency. The team definitely has needs at wide receiver, offensive line, and tight end but Tankersley (who would be a sure-fire 1st rounder any other year) will be difficult to pass up.
    38. Los Angeles Chargers: Dion Dawkins, OT, Temple
    The Chargers have serviceable tackles, but they need better to protect an aging Phillip Rivers. As I’ve said before this year’s tackles aren’t elite prospects, but solid starters can be found in the 2nd and 3rd. Dawkins is athletic and is a player who can start early and develop into something more.
    39. New York Jets: Alvin Kamara, RB, Tennessee
    Based on the idea that the Jets are content with developing Hackenberg and letting Bryce Petty/Journeyman QB keep the seat warm, I am going to once again have the Jets pass on a QB in a weak class. Kamara is a speedy back with good size who will share carries with Matt Forte until the 2018 season when he should be ready to carry the load himself.
    40. Carolina Panthers: Zach Banner, OT, USC
    The Panthers will still be looking at running backs, but once again hold of here to address their need at tackle. Banner is a mammoth tackle (6’8”, 361) who has had weight issues in the past. With good coaching and conditioning though, he can be a find. Few people his size can move the way he does.
    41. Cincinnati Bengals: Zack Cunningham, ILB, Vanderbilt
    After addressing the pass rush in round one, the Bengals add an athletic thumper in the middle. Cunningham has flown under the radar so far, but that might change before the Draft. In this mock though, he is still here at #41 and the Bengals will run their selection up to the podium.
    42. New Orleans Saints: Jordan Willis, DE, Kansas State
    All defense early on for the Saints. Corner in the first, pass rusher in the 2nd. Jordan Willis made money in the Senior Bowl where he looked unblockable. Cameron Jordan will appreciate less double teams.
    43. Philadelphia Eagles: Jourdan Lewis, CB, Michigan
    Thanks to a deep corner class, the Eagles can take a receiver in the 1st and still land a good cover corner in the 2nd. Lewis doesn’t possess the size you’d want, but has great coverage skills and is tenacious.
    44. Buffalo Bills: Cooper Kupp, WR, Eastern Michigan
    Remember, in this mock the Bills let Tyrod Taylor walk and drafted a quarterback in the 1st. If that happens, he will need more targets than Sammy Watkins. Kupp’s stock has soared, especially after Senior Bowl practices where he caught everything thrown to him against this vaunted corner class.
    45. Arizona Cardinals: Jarrad Davis, ILB Florida
    The Cardinals need a playmaker in the middle and Davis is just that. As in the 1st round, I believe that Arians thinks that he is close to competing again and that 2016 was a blip on the radar and nothing more. So, I don’t see the Cardinals investing a high pick on a quarterback.
    46. Minnesota Vikings: D’Onta Foreman, RB, Texas
    In this mock, the Vikings have moved on from Adrian Peterson and their lack of a running game sunk their offense last season. Asiata and McKinnon were not the answer and Foreman is a big, bruising runner with good speed for his size. While Minnesota would love to nab an offensive tackle, most of the players worth taking here are already gone.
    47. Baltimore Ravens: Amara Darboh, WR, Michigan
    An inside linebacker to replace the suddenly retired Zack Orr will be a high priority, but the Ravens cannot go into the 2017 season with the receivers that they currently have. Darboh is not a burner, but is fast enough and has good size.
    48. Indianapolis Colts: Haason Reddick, OLB/ILB, Temple
    Reddick is another player who made some money at the Senior Bowl displaying athleticism and speed from the outside during practices. Reddick might be too small to play OLB in a 3-4, but can possibly play ILB in the same scheme. Either way, he’s someone the Colts can move around to maximize his ability on a defense that desperately needs playmakers.
    49. Washington Redskins: Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford
    Robert Kelly was a nice find but might not be an every down back. McCaffrey might not either (jury is still out), but he could excel in a shared backfield. McCaffrey is also an excellent pass catcher and would give the already potent Washington offense an added dimension.
    50. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: DeDe Westbrook, WR, Oklahoma
    The Bucs need a deep threat to take some of the double teams off of stud receiver Mike Evans. Westbrook might not be a complete receiver, but he has an uncanny knack for getting deep and would fit well with the Buc offense.
    51. Denver Broncos: Chris Wormley, DT/DE, Michigan
    While the Denver defense is still formidable, the d-line (Derek Wolfe aside) isn’t getting it done. Wormley is a versatile player who can play end and tackle in a variety of alignments. He won’t offer much in the way of a pass rush, but he grades out to be a good run stopper who can occasionally collapse the pocket.
    52. Cleveland Browns: Budda Baker, Safety, Washington
    The Browns continue revamping their defense via the draft. Baker is a little on the small side but plays much bigger. He strikes me as an eventual emotional leader who just so happens to also be capable of big plays. Classic center fielder type safety.
    53. Detroit Lions: Raekwon McMillan, OLB/ILB, Ohio State
    The Lions need both outside and inside linebackers and McMillan might be able to play either position at the pro level, though he projects more on the outside in a 4-3 defense. McMillan is explosive and flies to the ball, but lacks the strength to take on blockers inside. He is, however, excellent in coverage which is rare for a linebacker coming out of college.
    54. Miami Dolphins: Dan Feeney, OG, Indiana
    This is a major steal for the Dolphins. So much so that I doubt things actually fall this way as Feeney is considered by many to be a 1st round pick. Having said that, if he is here then the Dolphins will definitely take him without a second thought.
    55. New York Giants: Gerald Everett, TE, South Alabama
    New York’s tight ends have been a non-factor for far too long and it needs addressed. Everett is a natural pass catcher with great separation and speed. He is not a great route runner and has a lot to learn in that area, but is a willing blocker who could start right away.
    56. Oakland Raiders: T.J. Watt, ILB/OLB, Wisconsin
    The Raiders continue to go all defense, taking J.J. younger brother to fill a need at linebacker. Watt doesn’t look all that athletic but don’t let that fool you. He can go sideline to sideline and while it’s unclear if he’s a better fit inside or out, he’s capable of making plays wherever he lines up.
    57. Houston Texans: Justin Evans, Safety, Texas A&M
    The Texans got a solid year from journeyman safety Quinton Demps and while it’s not a bad idea to re-sign him in free agency, they need depth at the position. Evans is severely underrated but could be an impact starter in the NFL.
    58. Seattle Seahawks (unless it is taken due to violations): Chidobe Awuzie, CB, Colorado
    The Legion of Boom needs an infusion of talent. Deshawn Shead had a nice season, but tore his ACL in the playoffs. Jeremy Lane was given a long-term contract but is better suited as a nickel corner. Awuzie is not speedy, but s physical and tough which fits in with what the Seahawks do on defense.
    59. Kansas City Chiefs: Anthony Walker, Jr, ILB, Northwestern
    Chiseled but undersized, Walker projects to a 3-4 ILB at the pro level. With the future of star linebacker Derick Johnson in doubt, the Chiefs need to look for an eventual replacement. Should Johnson return for one more season, he’d make a great mentor for the raw Walker who probably declared for the draft a year early.
    60. Dallas Cowboys: DeMarcus Walker, OLB/DE, Florida State
    The Cowboys have misfired multiple times in their quest to find a pass rusher. Walker is definitely a work in progress who might only be able to function as a designated pass rusher initially. To be honest, that might be all the Dallas needs him to do at this point.
    61. Green Bay Packers: Ryan Anderson, OLB, Alabama
    Anderson is a very good player who falls to the end of the 2nd because he doesn’t jump out at you like other players do. That might change during the evaluation process as he is a technically sound player with versatility. Early on, he will no doubt be a rush ‘backer which is just what the Packers might need. In time, he could develop into a solid all around starter.
    62. Pittsburgh Steelers: Evan Engram, TE, Mississippi
    Ladarius Green simply could not stay on the field and while Jesse James made some clutch catches, he’s more of a secondary tight end. Engram possesses wide receiver speed and while he is not very big for a tight end, is a capable blocker. He will definitely be more of a weapon in the passing game though with the ability to stretch defenses, create mismatches, and turn small plays into large ones.
    63. Atlanta Falcons: Jaleel Johnson, DT, Iowa
    After getting pass rush help in round one, the Falcons continue improving the defense by landing a penetrating defensive tackle to replace the aging Johnathan Babineaux. Johnson will be more of a rotational player for his first season or two, but should be a solid starter in the up front in time.
    64. New England Patriots: Desmond King, CB/S, Iowa
    The Patriots love versatile players and King fits that description. He’s compact and physical, but might not be fast enough to be an every down corner and some feel he will make a better safety at the pro level. He’s a solid defender though and is just the type of player that Bill Belichick gets the most out of.
    Also considered:
    Carl Lawson, DE, Auburn
    Pat Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech
    Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson
    Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn
    Dawuane Smoot, DT, Illinois
    JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, USC
    Tanoh Kpassagnon, DT, Villanova
    Ethan Pocic, C, LSU
    Cam Sutton, CB, Tennessee
    Roderkick Johnson, OT, FSU
    Curtis Samuel, RB/WR, OSU
    Adam Bisnowaty, OT, Pitt
    Antonio Garcia, OT, Temple
    Brad Kaaya, QB, Miami
    Elijah Qualls, DT, Miami
    Kendell Beckwith, ILB, LSU
    Damontae Kazee, CB, SDSU
    Rasul Douglas, CB, WVU
    Corn Elder, CB, Miami
    Nate Gerry, S, Nebraska
    Obi Melifonwu, S, UConn
    Marcus Maye, S, Florida
    Pat Elflein, C, OSU
    Dorian Johnson, OG, Pitt
    Bucky Hodges, TE, Virginia Tech
    Jake Butt, TE, Michigan
    Chad Hansen, WR, Cal
    Jalen Robinette, WR, Air Force
    Jeremy McNichols, RB, Boise State
    Kareem Hunt, RB, Toledo
    Davis Webb, QB, Cal
    Josh Dobbs, QB, Tennessee
    Chad Kelly, QB, Mississippi
    Nathn Peterman, QB, Pitt


  6. I have decided to post pictures of Monters Inc characters and linking them to some of the fine rulers on planet bob.

    This is about as historically accurate as it gets for us and our relations with them.


    Lord Hitchcock





    This one is clearly a given, mainly because it's my avatar in an alliance that is M Inc- themed. Also, it quite suits the profile well. A troll with a slight case of napoleon syndrome.


    King Neptune





    By far one of my best friends on Planet Bob, the story with King Neptune is my favorite. He was on FARK's perma ZI list and I literally bugged FARK until they had me write a micro beer review to get him off their list... in hindsight, I think FARK was just sick of me bugging them. Anyway, he's over 10 years old and has the wonder heavy muscle to protect my micro butt.


    Lord Hershey





    If DS was at war in the last few years, it was most likely with us. When coalitions can't handle us, they run to Hersh. This picture clearly sums up the Lord Hitchcock / Lord Hershey past.


    White Chocolate





    Make no mistake, White Chocolate has certainly spent her fair amount of time dropping the hammer on us... but she also loves us (and we love her).


    Almighty Grub





    Very-very mean, heartless ruler. The Villain in Polaris.







    Very-very nice, kind ruler. The white knight in Polaris


    Immortal Junka





    Always messing up... always a target on his back.






    The current Planet Bob Enforcers






    Does not believe in "fun". A war to him is simply spreadsheets.




    More to be edited-in later...






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    If enough minarchists, anarchists, Libertarians, and socialist Libertarians want a clan which bindicates us beyond our nation. We could create the greatest community ever.


    I love guns, Freedom,  debating different anarchist views and how to prepare a government collapse.


    If people with the same interests still are around, let's band together and create the most Libertarian Clan ever. Ideology test to join and an alliance who promotes freedom when forced into action. Let's change the landscape or disappear due to growing apathy.


    If enough want in, I'll stay on a new nation. Although without a Libertarian alliance, there is nothing left for me here.395_Anonymous_Guy_Fawkes_Anarchy.jpg            399_Anarchist_Flags___Star.png390_Symbol_for_Agorism.jpg382_Anarcho_Gadsden_Flag___Dont_Tread_on


    I welcome Agorism, Anarchists & Libertarians of all flavors. Debate is healthy, together and working together we have much more power to make real change than any of you might think.


    Nations of Anarchy is the current name, but if benter names are suggested and supported by most; it could change. If you love freedom, you are betraying yourself if you devote yourself to alliances who don't value it; as you let a false sense of obligation cause you to fade away in clans with no ambition or real brotherhood.


    I have one foot out the door, but if enough want to make CN fun again and network with like minded people; I'm willing to give CN another chance.


    Liberty or Death, Molon Labe, Free State Project, Freedom is a State of Mind

  7. Drege
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    It's been a fun six years and seven months, so I thought I might say good bye to some of you.

    Firstly, to the Pirates of the Parrot Order, my first alliance. Shade0017 sure had a way to make the game sound like more than it was. I didn't realize this until he tried to recruit me to numerous 'roleplay' websites. Had I not met him, or the other Pirates back then, I probably wouldn't have stayed. My experiences as a pirate, cabin member, and Captain were some of the best in CN, despite the hardships. Truly, the PPO is a great community, and I'll always remember the whacky times we had.

    To Lurunin, I apologize for bringing you into the game. haha :smug:

    To SpliceVW, :wub: thanks for everything

    To Alucard, :v: Now I see what you meant all those years.

    To Spikes, probably the most loyal pirate to have ever graced our AA. :blush:

    To XBloodX, USoN was a long time ago and I'll never forget how awesome you were to remain loyal to me. It's a hard thing in this game.

    To general abmenaj, proud to have passed on my legacy to you. lol

    To Jose, trolololololol :smug:

    To Lanna, I shall be seeing you, my deary! Really, thank you for all the fun times!

    To all other pirates... Stay swinging' ;)

    Secondly, to the Knights of Ni!, which were some of my best friends in the game. I met you guys in 2007 and even though quite a few of the originals are gone, the times carry on. Since watching Monty Python and the Holy Grail, I've showed it to well over a score of people. lol

    To Capt. Aloha, it's never too late to whip it into shape. :v:

    To Ramon666, quit slacking! I remember back when you ran !@#$! I hope you're doing well and something better than teaching! haha

    To FBI, nice to see you re-roll, and thanks for the service, President. ;)

    To Sudovia, you were the hardest working Knight I'd ever met. Thank you for the service and the best of luck to you in the world!

    To all other Knights no mentioned, thank you for the work. If it's something I've learned, even one person trying makes a huge difference.

    Thirdly, to the MHA, who helped out the alliances I was in tremendously. I never really pursued much for myself with you guys, but for everyone I represented. You did however always make me feel welcome, and it was a great feeling. At the end of the day, nothing matter, because we wanted to whup the same ass. :smug:

    To DoctorDoc, thanks for all the hilarious times! When you became Trium, you really looked to help out the KofN, and I truly appreciated that!

    To Belari, you're hilarious! And I'm looking forward to more Tom. ;)

    To Julia_Rose_Vicious, thank you for playing all of my requests! I'm not sure how much fun you had with those short talks, but they were a blast!

    To all the other Harmless folk, thank you for the support. It really meant a lot to know allies like you who were always friendly and assertive.

    To all three of the above alliances, there were some times where I might have ticked you off, or you annoyed me. There definitely was but I only had the success of whatever alliance I was in at the time at heart.

    To everyone else, the best wishes! I want you to know, I don't harbor anything negative towards anyone. As a matter of fact, the game in general, I don't care about. I've found something new to me and I will pursue it until my end.

    If you would like to just talk or anything, you may feel free to contact me via the below.

    skype: nathanael.gosling

    twitter: @dv4l

    tumblr: oodlesofbacon.tumblr.com

    deviantart: drege.deviantart.com

    Farewell, Cyber Nations!

  8. I was recently browsing my posting history, because every so often I go back to the AcTi posts wondering if I made the right choices at the time.  (On a side note, I also recently reviewed my Kim Jong Illest OWF posts, that was fun to read.)  Looking back over my content, I clicked a few of the Boiler Room topics I posted in around the same time.


    Good lord, how things have changed!  The most extreme posters were, by today's standards, exceedingly moderate for the Boiler Room.  It's sad to see most of those moderate voices gone.  With only a few posters representative of the majority opinion, such as myself, Kain, Thrawn, KMM, Icewolf, and a couple of others, the Boiler Room is almost majority extremists by most standards.  Even the previously-extreme posters like Hereno and Juslen would seem average today.  The unfortunate casualty has been the verbose, thoughtful posters like Aeternos Astramora, Tom Marvolo Riddle, Voodoo Nova, and others.  Even they were second-generation Boiler Room folks, versus the first-generation I was too late to experience who posted long, well-detailed posts about more philosophical topics and ideology.  


    Nowadays the forum is more populated with Hawaiian nazism, anti-Feminist lesbians, Chinese fanboys.....it certainly makes it more colorful, but the magic of the Boiler Room is drowned out by demagoguery.  Some of the older posters still around, who are now the moderates, spend more time replying to the inanity of the modern Boiler Room than having legitimate, thoughtful discussions.


    It's sad.

  9. Haflinger
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    Once upon a time, there was an alliance of sorts called The Rebbilon.


    I remember them often these days. If I compare you to them, it probably means you're both amusing me greatly and not very important in the game.


    They were an offshoot of a bunch of wannabe spies in the ODN, led by a guy called Pete McAvoy (I think that was his name originally; his only real spying effort I know of was this thread about Polar). Anyway, they were a bunch of anti-ODN rogues, and back then the ODN was a pretty easygoing alliance, even more so than it is now. So their complaints of oppression were ludicrous.


    As was their spelling. And grammar. And just their whole writing style, in a language that closely resembles English. Some of this stuff has to be seen to be believed.


    Rebellion announcement

    rebellion victory


    Offical end

    Orange defense network


    So anyway, if I compare you to them, and you're having fun doing what you're doing, keep it up. I don't think I could take this game if it was serious.

  10. Was doing some bathroom reading and happened upon this:


    "In an animated conversation I often see the face of the person with whom I am talking so clearly and so subtly determined in accordance with the thought he expresses, or that I believe has been produced in him, that this degree of clarity far surpasses my powers of vision: so the subtle shades of play of the muscles and the expression of the eyes must have been made up by me. Probably the person made an altogether different face, or none at all."   (Friedrich Nietzsche - Beyond Good and Evil - V.192)


    Also, your Mom.

  11. October 11th is National Coming Out Day, and I chose that day to do something I was scared to do for a long time. I've known I was gay for about 2 years now. My father and mother are Catholic. So it's a scary thing to do, I knew they wouldn't approve. I was thinking about it the whole day. That night, at dinner, we did the grace. I volunteered. I said the usually thanks 4 the bread, jesus blah blah. then I said, "Thank you for making me homosexual." Amen. I teared up, expecting my dad to get his shotgun and shoot me right there and then. Their jaws basically dropped to the floor, they were stunned. My sister was across from me, she has known for a few months now. She broke the silence, "pass the butter please." I passed her the butter, my parents were still shocked. They hate me, I thought. It became so overwhelming, I got up and ran to my room, locked the door, and cried into my pillow. &#036;%&amp;@ &#036;%&amp;@ &#036;%&amp;@, i thought. why the &#036;%&amp;@ did i do that? About 10 minutes later, my mother knocked on the door. i shouted "go away you hate me." She said, "No i don't, honey. Please open the door, Caleb." I opened the door crying. She hugged me, and said "we love you no matter what." My father and sister were behind her. My sister was smiling, proud of what i done. My father wasn't as pleased, but I think he doesnt hate me. We all sat down and talked for the next hour. it was the hardest thing i ever done in my life. i havent come out at school yet, because its a catholic school. im transferring next year to get away from the bigots and maybe meet a guy. i haven't had sexual experiences with a guy before, but it's something i look forward too.


    dont be afraid to come out, your loved ones will love you and not shoot you with a shotgun.

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    I speak for myself but I guess some will agree with me. Recently our planet has been attacked and invaded by Aliens players who play a game in an other world and bringing their political grudges to this world it is impossible for many players to follow the politics and Planet Bob has become a sideshow and getting abused .

    To all off you who  invested in your nations and AA many hours you are cutting the branch of the tree you are sitting on.  I thought you were smarter but maybe you wanna win this game by killing it.

    Maybe you don't care which is ok too. But I can't  understand why so many players who still play the game are just jumping off the cliff. 

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    i want to sell 50 tech 

  12. The upcoming elections have reminded me of something, something that is evident to most people in the world, except, for whatever reason, Americans: The American culture and ethos, for the past 40 years, has been based on selfishness (or its PC-term, "individualism") and neo-liberalism, the misguided belief that rich and powerful people can somehow solve all of our problems, and therefore we must protect and defend them at all costs, with Trump being the clear example. Trump's appeal is that he is a rich man who owns his own company, so that automatically means that he knows how to run a country, despite the fact that he has not given an intelligent and outlined plan, and really is nothing more than a buffoon. This Gallup poll outlines the frustration, alienation, and disapproval with American politics: http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/179477/americans-frustration-congress-elections.aspx 


    American political discourse is dominated by neo-liberalism, in every considerable way. So much, that any policy advocated that will help the disadvantaged, and limit the privilege of the rich, is considered to be "class warfare", even though class warfare is conducted, every single day, by the privileged against those who are privileged, through law, the structure of our education system (another subject in its entirety), and other means. This is not limited to politics, it is us, our society, that have been influenced by this neo-liberal philosophy. If our politicians represent us, then they do a very good job at it. It's why I choose not to vote, simply because I have no illusions that a politician can improve these conditions. A government is only as good as the society it represents. What's the solution? I honestly don't know if there is any solution outside of a revolution, not a violent revolution, but a spiritual one, one that is based on truth and radical love, and also a cultural and philosophical one, a new renaissance of sorts, considering the fact that stupidity and ignorance greatly contribute to these conditions.


    But I don't see that happening... and it's worth noting that I, by expressing this opinion, am not being self-righteous, nor am I speaking from a position of intellectual superiority. I am saying this because I believe it to be true, not because I'm not guilty of being an acolyte of this philosophy as well. The truth is that I, quite honestly, no longer care because I, as an individual, am powerless to do anything about it on the macro-level. We, as a nation can, but do we want to? Do I want to? Do you want to? The only thing I can do is be the change that I want to see in my everyday life, opposing unfair hierarchies, materialism, and individualism, and trying to be as altruistic as possible. It's hard, and it is why I use the term "we" instead of "you" or "y'all", because I am as influenced by this Age of Selfishness as the next man, and I am as guilty in perpetuating it. That does not mean, however, that we can't try. But we don't, we just continue to perpetuate it.


    I don't follow the "human nature" argument, and that is not the argument I'm making, it's complete BS, and it's also a cop-out. Human beings have the capacity to do good, however, we live in a society that rewards greed and selfishness more than it rewards justice, which is what makes it much more difficult to do good because "what's the point?" right?

  13. Quote

    Disease is an impediment to the body, but not to the will, unless the will itself chooses. Lameness is an impediment to the leg, but not to the will. And add this reflection on the occasion of everything that happens; for you will find it an impediment to something else, but not to yourself.


    -From The Enchridion. by Epitctetus, Chapter 9




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    Good afternoon, I'm Schattenmann, your humble fact-checker for this mini-presentation of Os's World, your number one source for news from that land beyond the clouds, that happy land somewhere over the rainbow where the sky is green, the sun is purple, and trees grow down.

    Today, we visit that wonderful land again, beckoned by the claims of His Backwardness that:

    I oppose certain things in bob. Reparations. Eternal wars. A few others. I oppose them whether my allies do them or whether enemies do them. Ive certainly shown over the years ill take unpopular stances because its what I agree with. So yeah.

    To do homage to the man, I say : :::::::chortle:::::: :

    Opposition is Action
    Let us first channel that biggest jerkwad of philosophy, the man who gave us pedantry, Socrates, and ask first: what is it to "oppose"? This is a word which implies action, oppose is a verb, it is not a passive state, but affirmative. We understand that to oppose something means to stand in its way. If a man opposes something, he acts to stop it. If a man is opposed to something, he moves to separate himself from it.
    We can greater understand this concept of opposition by considering its opposite, support. Support, too, is an action. Support enables things. A treaty is support, war is support, diplomatic pressure is support.
    Opposition is powerful. If rulers and alliances took stock of their ideals, and stood upon them, the world would shudder.

    Truth is Found in Action
    Now, let us examine OsRavan's record of opposition to reparations, eternal wars, etc. For it is in a man's action that we find the truth.
    • In his perverted part in a perverted play, he directed the forces of ODN in enforcement of peace terms in the DH-NPO War which included $2.427 Billion in reparations ($1B from Legion alone), and a month long extended war against the top tier of Pacifica.
    • In the Dave War, ODN itself demanded an extended war of top-tier MCXA nations.
    • In the TOP-C&G War, ODN stood shoulder-to-shoulder with its allies and coalition in demands for reps totaling over $1 Billion and tens-of-thousands of tech (most of it blood money to GOONS), and 40,000 tech from Legion.

    It is most often the case that when we discuss the historical sins of an alliance, we must be careful to remember that their sins have been across multiple administrations, and that distance makes for penance.
    Not so with ODN and OsRavan.
    OsRavan himself led the Network in each of these wars and always unfalteringly waved the banner of his bloodthirsty allies.

    OsRavan Found False
    Os's World is a weird place, indeed. It is a world where a man finds it perfectly sane to decry every kind of injustice who has himself committed his personal influence, and the military might of his alliance to the extraction of outrageous reps; who has himself accepted reps; who has put the weight of his alliance behind the acts he himself decries over and over again, enthusiastically.

    Why must we continue to examine OsRavan?



    I think your obsession with Os is bordering on alarming.
    With that I'm going to recuse myself from the impending NpO circlejerk itt.


    How many of these nine illustrious years have been spent nursing your unhealthy obsession with OsRavan? I wanna say six but that number seems kinda low...

    OsRavan breathes rarefied air as one of very few men whose person came to define an AA and in many ways an era. His person is political, to discuss the person of OsRavan is to discuss ODN. Where OsRavan lies, the truth must be brought forth.
    This is no petty personal squabble, but a question of the state of things. As long as twisted manipulators such as OsRavan are allowed to spew their backwards histories, alliances will continue to emulate them.

    History is the sum of actions of men, OsRavan's opposition could have meant an entirely different world, but despite his repetitive cries that his principles give no regard to politics, we see that he has no principles, and he perpetuated a world without principle.

    So, my dear reader, on this, the 1,752nd day since OsRavan forced reparations from Cult of Justitia, and the 1,751st day since he began denying it, I'm your host Schattenmann bidding you good day from all of us in Os's World.

    Os's World 1
    Os's World 2

    Source: A Valentine from TPF
  15. I was just recently diagnosed with Stage 3A Lymphoma Cancer. A lump came up in the summer under my right arn and didn't hurt or grow. I asked my doctor about it and he was said it was probably nothing since it had none of the symptoms of lymphoma but sent me out and had a biopsy completed on it on December 29th.

    It tested positive for lymphoma and after a full body scan it was determined that all my lymph nodes in my upper body were affected.

    Yesterday. I had a port put in so that I can begin chemotherapy starting next Monday and will continue that treatment for at least two months.

    I am not worried but oddly at peace with all this going on. I know that God is in control and that I will come out of this stronger and healthier.

    If you ever have a lump come up on your body, I would highly suggest having a doctor take a look at it just to ensure it's benign or in the worse case it is cancer and you get it taken care of early.

    Normal symptoms, none of which I have had or have, are night sweats, losing weight, lump growing and growing, multiple lumps, bloated feeling, and tiredness,

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    Dear Friends,

    This blog entry is to open a discussion with the community on the state affairs of the game. I have played this game far longer than i ever expected and will probably continue to do so until I see no need to continue. When I first created this nation I was eager to grow and become a powerful nation; which in my own respect, I believe I am there. Every so often during the years of my growth, a war would come along and stymie my growth. But I cherished these moments. For me the game was never of political domination, it was about blowing stuff up. I, like many others wonder, what else is there to do? I have grown to a fair point that at this point, anymore growth is surely for boredom and to see if I can attain anything else. I applaud all of you who take risk and enjoy the game. What I wish to ask you all are the following questions:

    What keeps you going?
    If your nation deleted would you be back?
    Are you awaiting a global war? And if so, would you prefer a curve stomp or a fair bout?
    How are you staying entertained in this game?
    Is the treaty web why we are here? How would you change it?

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    Effective December 31st of this year, I will be ending my involvement with the Sanction Race.


    Simply put; after eight long years, the Sanction Race is no longer something that I enjoy doing. It has become a chore rather than an interest - something that has carried on only due to inertia of expectation - something the frequent streaks of irregular updates only serve to make more clear.


    I would like to thank the dozens of people who have helped with updates throughout the years, especially during the early days when it was just getting started - Supri and Diomede were particularly active at the time; as were Adrian LaCroix, Arcadian Empire, and a handful of others who have momentarily escaped my mind; Logan, for (re-)starting the whole thing in the first place, whichever hapless mod made the sorry decision to pin the damn topic and stop it from disappearing within a few weeks; the legions of people who helped with small, periodic updates along the way; and finally, to all of you who enjoyed it, posted comments, left feedback, trash-talked your opponents, and argued about numbers throughout the Sanction Race, Warstats, and Survivor series - you provided the energy to keep it going for so long, and I couldn't have done it without you.


    Keeping the Sanction Race for so many years has always been an honour, and the gratitude and thanks I've received from it has always been most welcome. It was a pleasure and a privilege to do something like this for so long, and though our paths will cross less frequently in the future, I wish each and every one of you all the best moving forward.





    Why now?
    When I started doing weekly updates so many years ago, it just so happened that I did it on a Thursday, and it's been Thursday ever since. Two Thursdays from now will not only align with a month-end update, but also a quarterly update and *also* a year-end update. Combined with this being the eight year anniversary of the Sanction Race and the ten (yes, ten) year anniversary of Cybernations, it seemed like a good clean-cut milestone to end off at.


    Can I convince you to reconsider?
    No. The light at the end of the tunnel was the only thing keeping it until now.


    Is this because NPO beat you up?
    No. This decision was made at least three months ago.


    Are you leaving CN?
    No. Not yet, at least, or unless admin discovers my multis.


    Is someone else taking over the Sanction Race?
    I have made no such arrangements.


    Can I threaten you to reconsider?
    No. Well, you can, but I'd be very sad because my infra still has that new car smell and I don't think admin offers a warranty.

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    On Sunday, I ran the Philadelphia Marathon - my second marathon. Over the last few months, I've been trying to fight off the tendonitis I developed back in April, so I was sorely undertrained. As assumed by my unfortunate lack-of-training-ability, this race absolutely trashed me. Things fell apart that haven’t fallen apart in years, and things that I expected to fall apart (my feet, mainly) stayed blissfully perfect. I did manage to partially recover from this trashing before the race was over, which was an unexpected surprise. Anyway –

    Pre-race was fairly normal, for what was expected. Our group came out of the subway at around 5:45AM and made our way to the security checkpoints. They had increased security this year, and had a full perimiter around the start line. You had to go through checkpoints where you would be searched in order to get in. Jason, myself, my mom, and my dad got through with no problem - my hydration vest was searched, Jason’s backpack for our stuff (that my parents would be holding) was searched, my mother’s purse was searched, and my dad walked straight through because he didn’t have anything. For some reason though, they didn’t want to let my sister in over her tiny little Vera Bradley clutch that she had her phone and ID in. Luckily, one of the head guys there noticed she was with two runners, and told them just to let her through. …Okay then! We hung out for a bit and used the port-a-johns before the lines started, until it was time to head to the corrals. Jason was in the first corral after the elites, and I was in the very last corral to be sent off. As usual. We offered our ‘good luck’s and lined up in our corrals. After a delayed start, my corral was finally walked up to the start line around 7:45AM. They shot the starting pistol, and we were off! ….at our speedy 10 minute pace.

    Mile 1 was my ‘winging it mile’, and wing it I certainly did. I tried my best to just focus on what felt comfortable and not look at my watch or the mileage. I read all the signs I passed, checked out all the buildings, took note of all the flags – the things I don’t normally notice when I’m running the beginning of a race. Around a half mile (a freaking half mile!@#$%!!) my hip started hurting. My brain was screaming, ‘SERIOUSLY? A HALF MILE IN?!’. I wasn’t expecting to have to deal with hip pain until at least mile 13 or 14, so this was a bit of a pain. From that point on, I had to do my stupid crescent kick every mile or so to pop the ligaments in my hip back into the place they should be, where they wouldn’t hurt. Annoying.

    Other than my hip, miles 1-7 felt amazing. Sometime during this stretch, I ran my fastest mile, at 9:59 pace. The buildings and shops were so cool, and the crowds were awesome – the guys at mile 3-ish handing out the tissues were certainly my MVP’s of the race. I have never been happier to get a tissue. There were so many great race signs in this stretch, like ‘You’re running better than the government’ and ‘hurry up, the Kenyans are drinking your beer’. I passed so many awesome restaurants that Jason and I had been to, and was thinking about all the delicious food that we needed to come back and eat. By the end of mile three, I was trying to figure out pace and timing, since I was feeling so great other than my hip. Luckily, mile 4 came at a great time, and I remembered that I was simply focusing on having fun that day, and not PRing or finishing in any certain time. I spent all of mile 4 telling myself this whenever I’d pop pace or average times into my head, and eventually quashed those thoughts completely. This was a big thing for me, since normally, math is what keeps me going during races. But, it also keeps me distracted – distracted from my body, distracted from whatever hill I’m running on, distracted from the runners around me. I wanted to experience a race without being distracted, so no math (other than miles down and left) it was! This was an enormous help to me over the whole race, since I know I would have become extremely discouraged later in the course if I still had an ‘I need to do good’ goal in my mind. I focused instead on what was around me and saying thank you to every person that cheered for me.

    Miles 7-10 started rolling terrain on our trek from University City over through the Please Touch Museum area. I hit the hill at mile 7 and started my walk to the top, as I knew I didn’t need to be pounding up hills in my under-trained state with 19 miles to go. Somewhere along this stretch I heard my name and saw my friend Amy and her daughter Morgan cheering on the sidewalk. I was totally surprised! I waved, said hi, and kept heading up the hill, a little more pumped up than I was before. The downhill at mile 8 was awesome, but I couldn’t seem to get my legs to open up as much as I wanted to. This wasn’t much of a concern for me though, because we were running alongside the Philadelphia Zoo! I spent most of my time looking at the walls of the zoo hoping I’d catch a glimpse of an animal, and listening to all of the different noises that were coming from behind the wall. I passed a door that said “Rhino Enclosure”, and spent the next few minutes wondering what else was behind the wall next to me. Mile 9 brought the last big hill to walk, at which point we were at the highest point on the course (just under 150 feet – save your oxygen!) – the Please Touch Museum. They had some fun bands and drummers up top, which were awesome to run to as you headed around to the start of mile 10. While I was walking, I pulled my phone out to check Jason’s splits – he was doing amazing! I started getting excited for each time I could check my phone to see his tracking updates, and hoped I would see him on the out-and-back section on Kelly Drive.

    Just before mile 11, we made the turn to start heading back down Martin Luther King Jr Boulevard towards the Art Museum and passed a fantastic cheer station – trippy music, people in costume and drag dancing… It was super awesome. They seriously pumped me up and my pace quickened for the start of mile 11. By the time I hit mile 12, the wheels were starting to come off a little. My feet hurt, but not my tendons – just the beginnings of soreness from being on them for the time I had been so far. My legs were starting to feel heavy. My hip was getting worse. It was at this point that I realized I was soon going to hit the split for the marathon and half-marathon, and that I could tap-out half way if I wanted to. The second I thought it, I instantly told myself, ‘you can’t!’, because I had dedicated mile 13 to Jason, and I wanted to make sure I made it to the end of that mile. I walked up the hill to the Art Museum, and stayed to the left for the Marathoners, watching the half marathoners speed past me to their finish line. At the top of this little hill, I saw Amy and Morgan again! In that moment, I wasn’t quite sure how they got from University City to the Art Museum in that short amount of time (it wasn’t actually that short). I smiled for some pictures and headed on my way around the museum to the half marathon mark on Kelly Drive. I hit the half mark at 2:45:40 – not too shabby for me, considering I had walked some hills. I hoped that I’d be able to hold that kind of effort for the rest of the course, but (spoiler alert) that wasn’t in the cards, as I would soon find out. Shortly after the half way mark, I saw a bright orange and yellow shirt running towards me. It was Jason! He was running down mile 25. I yelled his name, and he saw me just as he was about to pass me. He cut across the course (sorry random guy he ran in front of!) to stop on the yellow line and give me a hug. As he hugged me, he said, “Can’t stay too long, I’m on track for a PR!” (personal record), to which I said something like, “OMGWHYAREYOUSTOPPINGRUNNOWGO!”. I was so, so, so excited to hear he was doing well, got a little emotional over it (oops), and ran-walked the rest of the mile to try and get myself back on track. I was really starting to feel the mileage. Just at the end of Boathouse Row, I heard my name again – it was another friend, Marty! He walked with me for a bit, and we talked about the rest of our runners. Once we hit the Marker for the returning side’s mile 25, Marty headed over to hang out on the curb, and I ran/walked my way through the rest of mile 13 and 14. 14 was much more walking than running. I started to get nervous.

    Mile 15 is when I crashed. And I crashed hard. I could only run for short sections. My other hip had started acting up. I would pop my left one, and the pain would come back within a quarter mile. My feet were sore. I tried to put it out of my mind and keep run/walking my way down the course. But by 16, I knew I couldn’t keep running. I was in too much pain. I sat down on the curb and tried to stretch my hips out. I got some relief from it, and decided to walk mile 16 (a gradual uphill) so I could try and loosen them up and not put too much uphill stress on them. I got to the top of the Falls Bridge, crossed it, and saw (what I thought would be) a blissful downhill on the other side. I started up into a run… and felt a horrendous pain in my left knee. My IT band. An issue that I haven’t had for almost two years. All I could think was, “Really, this too!?”. Luckily, I couldn’t feel it at all while I was walking. I speed walked the rest of the downhill, turned around, speed walked the uphill, and tried to run again over the bridge. The pain shot through my knee and I drastically limped. Nope. I realized that I had a lot of walking in my future.

    I spent the next four miles walking. Other than that short attempt at running near the falls bridge, I ended up walking all of miles 16-20. Instead of getting discouraged, I tried to look at the scenery around me and think about how close I was to the turn around. Once I turned around, I knew I’d be able to make it back, one way or another. I allowed myself to do some quick math and realized that even if I had to walk the whole rest of the course, I would still finish within the 7 hour cutoff time. I relaxed. Closing in on mile 18, a man caught up to me that had my same hydration vest on. Because of this fact, he decided that we were going to be best friends. This guy was a chatterbox on legs. I’m usually not a very chatty person in the first place, but at this point I was deep in the pain cave and did. not. want. to. talk. He told me all about his friends that were running, what he did for work (IT Implementations), the projects he had coming up, the conferences he had, the different companies he implemented systems in…. He wanted to tell me everything. He began noticing other people passing that were part of his running group, and he started talking to me as if I knew them. He seemed to point out people every quarter mile and tell me things like, “Bob’s test last week went great! Which is really fortunate for Susan”, while I had no idea who Bob, what this test even was, or why the hell it was so awesome for Susan. He let me know that the leader of his group had told him to train to 28 miles as a first-timer for the marathon. He had done it successfully, but had done something give out in his leg around mile 16, and now could not run without pain. He was content to walk the rest of the course, but was hoping he could run it in for the finish line photos. He walked with me for the next three and a half miles. I started to feel obligated to walk with him, because I thought it would be rude to try and start running again in the middle of someone’s life story to you. I didn’t like the feeling.

    By the time we got to Manayunk, I was listening to my fourth description of a company IT software installation (all of which I understood exactly none of), and was desperate to get away (sorry dude, you were quite nice, but I throw things when I even need to CALL IT, and listening to stories of it for an hour during late miles of a particularly painful marathon were a very polite form of torture). In addition, I had seriously started feeling like I developed some sort of Alzheimer’s during the past few miles - this guy had pointed out SO MANY PEPOLE as if I knew them, and I was partially wondering if I actually DID know them, and they were all somehow connected to Montco (they weren’t, this guy was just a chatterbox). At this point, and I realized we were at the top of a hill with a long downhill in front of us to the turnaround, where we would be three quarters through mile 20 and headed on our way back to the Art Museum and finish line. This was my chance. I told my new BFF4lyfe that I was going to run the downhill, stretch at the bottom, and then walk the uphill. He said he’d catch up to me while I was stretching. I was selfishly hoping for my own sanity that he didn’t. I told my knee to STFU and ran probably my fastest quarter mile in the course. I stopped at the bottom to stretch as promised, and began walking up the hill once I was finished. I passed him before he hit the turn, and he let me know he was going to stop at the port-a-johns at the bottom. “I’ll catch up with you if I can!”. He was stopping for a bit. Oh thank god. In a way, I’m slightly glad I met this guy, because he was my motivation to keep pushing forward and run as much as possible to stay ahead of him catching up to me. However, my knee was still really bothering me. Once I got to the top of the hill, I ran for another tenth of a mile or so, limping along. I decided to walk for a bit longer and figure out how I could get myself ready to run. Around this time, I happened to hit the beer stop at the end of Manayunk. A guy handed me a cup of Yuengling and told me, “You got this, and you definitely want this!” I figured Beer couldn’t hurt by now. I grabbed the cup from him, said thank you, and heard, “Get moving, Potts!”. It was friends from my traithlon team, JJ and Kimberly! I waved and said hi, feeling boosted by seeing familiar faces. I drank half my beer, threw the rest out, and started my limp-run towards the 21 Mile marker. Just before I hit it, I realized, WAIT A MINUTE! I KNOW HOW TO FIX THIS! Duh. It’s fitting that at the end of the mile I dedicated to doctors, I finally realized that I had the skills to fix my IT band. I plopped down on the ground and did some ART and hand combing on my IT Band. While I was down there, I chided myself a bit for not thinking of this four and a half miles ago. I finished up, stood up, started to run, and viola! I was fixed! I beamed ear to ear, mentally thanked my Doctors, and started on my way through my last 5 miles.

    Miles 21 through 25 were fairly uneventful. I ran/walked most of the miles, and drastically lowered my pace compared to miles 16-20. I had a conversation with a woman about my hydration pack, and stopped every mile to do my routine stretches and ART/comb out my IT Band. I mainly enjoyed the scenery, relished in the fact that my knee wasn’t in exploding pain any more, texted my family when I got to each mile marker, and tried to ignore the aching pain my legs and feet. My tendons still felt fantastic, and I was becoming more and more thankful for that with each step, but also more and more nervous that the tide there would turn. There were very few spectators left, but each one of them cheered for me by name and told me that I had it in the bag. I thanked every one of them.

    Just after starting Mile 25, I saw a familiar orange and yellow shirt on the side, waving at me. It was Jason again! I ran up to him and gave him a hug. He let me know that he had gotten a PR! I was so excited. I asked him if I could give him my hydration pack, since it was starting to hurt to carry, and he wonderfully said yes. He couldn’t keep up with me on the way back (probably the only time I will ever type that), so he let me know he’d meet me there after I finished, and that my family was waiting for me. I walked/ran to the top of the long but gradual hill, until I could see the Mile 26 flag off in the distance. At this point, I stopped for a bit and really laid into my IT Band to make sure I could run the whole rest of the way in. A woman on the sideline noticed me grimacing and got nervous, and kept telling me “Slow! Slow!”. I could tell that she didn’t speak much English, and didn’t think it was the greatest idea for me to run it in. I smiled at her, said thank you, and took off at a run for the finish.

    After 6 hours, 16 minutes, and 11 seconds, I finally crossed the finish line for the Philadelphia Marathon. I finished all smiles, happy that I was about to be able to sit down and relax. No more pain cave. Just hobble cave to get home. A volunteer put a finisher’s medal around my neck (arguably the coolest finisher’s medal I’ve ever gotten), and I slowly made my way over to my family, who were waiting at the chute exit. Our running group friends caught up with us shortly after, and Jason hobbled back to us in one piece. After some group time, we all headed back to our respective homes, where Jason and I went to dinner with my family and then promptly fell asleep at 6:30PM.

    An afterthought - I’m TENTATIVELY saying this because I believe in repeat verification…. but… my new medicine worked! At NO point during the course did I have breathing issues, even when I got emotional (which usually sends me gasping for air). My breathing felt fantastic the whole way through. I’m hesitant to declare it a full victory, however, as it was only one occasion and I wasn’t pushing myself to my hardest potential. But still – I comfortably ran a 9:59 mile somewhere in there with no breathing issues?! That’s amazing. I’m intending on using the same med combo for a 5k this Thanksgiving, and if it works just as well there at a higher intensity, then I’ll declare it a victory, accept the Mast Cell Activation Disorder diagnosis, and see will talk about where I go from there. Here’s hoping!

    Hope you guys somewhat followed along and enjoyed the recap.

    Until next race,


  18. Rebel Virginia
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    I am relevant and very important. Please believe me when I say this. After all, it was I who triumphed over the Alaskan Border Patrol in 2007, and it was I who initiated the events that led to the Family's demise in 2009. Or was it 2010? 2011?

    I am Rebel Virginia, and I am still relevant. Never forget.

  19. Sorry if that bloc still exists, but you weren't/aren't politically relevant enough to warrant exclusivity of the phrase.

    This entry is going to be about Polaris, XX members and former members, ex-SF, and that general sphere of influence that has maintained, by choice or force, a certain isolation from the main grouping that we would consider the treaty web.

    I wanted to discuss the formulaic use of the "Usual Suspects" as a political and economic tool of warfare against certain undesirable members within the popular coalition.

    How many times are people going to repeatedly curbstomp Polaris, XX, and ex-SF before they realize that people such as Pacifica, MK, TOP, Umbrella, and others are throwing peripheral allies against an isolated piece of the treaty sphere in order to politically weaken ties between desirable allies and undesirable members of the coalition, or in order to keep certain peripheral alliances from growing enough to be a statistical threat.

    How many times will the non-leader alliances be content to "wait until after this next war" and resign to the fact that "the targets are written in stone."?

    I won't speculate on which specific alliance(s) are to blame for the manipulation of the "coalition" at-large, nor will I bother listing the non-leader alliances, as I would enjoy being able to bump this in the inevitable future just to demonstrate the literal formula that certain groups use to ensure their own dominance at the expense of every single periphery group in CN.