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How to win at Cyber Nations Moralism without really trying.


lamuella

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1) Identify yourself with a moral code. Don't worry too much about its tenets, as long as they're clearly delineated, and it's easy to identify infractions.

2) Scan the active threads in Alliance Announcements for a few days. Identify an alliance, individual, or policy that transgresses your newly acquired modal code. Note that this is not the same as transgressing the alliance or individual's own moral code.

3) Post in the relevant thread something along these lines: "Your bullying and tyrannical behaviour will not be tolerated forever. You may think you're on top now, but you have already sewn the seeds of your own destruction. You are tragic villains, who will be brought low by your own hubris and the ire of those you have trampled underfoot. A reckoning is on its way."

4) Under no circumstances should you actually take any actions against this alliance, individual or policy. You have already taken enough action.

5) repeat steps 2 to 4 around 5 times in total over the course of several months or years. Take all the time you need.

6) Keep one eye on the alliances, individuals, and policies you have spoken doom against. Do nothing to them except observe. If the alliance flourishes and continues to transgress your moral code, feel free to repeat your prophecy of doom. Remember not to give any specifics.

7) should any of your targets suffer adverse consequences of any kind at any point, be the first to remind them of your words. You will seem like a visionary and the Voice Of The People.

That's all there is to it. Broadcast the hits, forget the misses. Your position in CN's most pious choruses is all but guaranteed.

edit for the thinking impaired: It was fairly obvious that I wasn't talking about those moralists within this game who actually do take action or effect change. The parts that make it fairly obvious are the "without really trying" part and the "under no circumstances should you actually take any actions". I'm fully aware of moralists in the game who effect change. Much as I dislike Schattenmann for more reasons that I could comfortably list here, he takes an active role in changing things when he sees things that he thinks should be changed. I'm not talking about Schatt here. Roquentin has and does effected change. I'm not talking about Roquentin here either. Repeat this simple caveat with the name of every other CN moralist you think I might be talking about. If they have attempted, in whatever means, to combat the things they consider to be immoral (and I use combat in a general rather than a militaristic sense) then I'm not talking about them.

I'm instead talking about the many armchair moralists whose reaction to something they don't like in CN is to make the fairly short odds bet that those currently enjoying good fortune will not always enjoy good fortune, and who then proceed to do nothing at all apart from prophesy doom. My problem is that it's the safest bet in existence, especially if you stay vague about it. Every alliance that exists, has existed, or will exist will have points in the game where they are brought low. If an alliance has not experienced such a point, then you might more correctly say that they haven't experienced it yet. Hence on a long enough timeline any suggestion that an alliance will reap what it has sown will come true, for broad enough values of "true".

if you want to play the game according to your system of morals, great. Do so, live according to your code, try and change the world to your code. Have a great time and I wish you all the luck in the world. You have skin in the game and I hope you play it to the best of our abilities. I probably don't like you that much but I'm blown away by your ability to show up (to quote Keanu Reeves). It's the people who aren't investing anything in their worldview who get my goat. Armchair quarterbacks with nothing but prophecies.

Glad to have cleared that up, and apologies for quoting Keanu Reeves.

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"4) Under no circumstances should you actually take any actions against this alliance, individual or policy. You have already taken enough action."

- Lamuella

LOL

There is a big disconnect, as demonstrated here, between those leaders whose "moral code" allows for aggressive military action and those who do not (or do, but only in very limited situations.)

For those who are okay with aggressive military actions, taking some sort of military action IS the definition of "doing something." However, for those whose "moral code" includes no aggressive military action or only in limited situations - of course they are not going to "do something" by the others standards EXACTLY because taking an aggressive military action is against their moral code. Thus, all they CAN do is express their opinion on whatever happens to be the issue at the time.

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Even before I opened this I knew it would be a goon complaining. goons can do 3 things well

1. ride the coat tails of allies

2. beat on alliances a fraction of their size

3. complain or cry

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Moralists are such a joke. They're irrelevant and powerless. They make no sense and nobody listens to them. That's why my alliance has spent 43 pages worth of posts defending itself over the MONGOLS war.

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Even before I opened this I knew it would be a goon complaining. goons can do 3 things well1. ride the coat tails of allies2. beat on alliances a fraction of their size3. complain or cry

Where is the like button when you need it. :wub:

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Even before I opened this I knew it would be a goon complaining. goons can do 3 things well1. ride the coat tails of allies2. beat on alliances a fraction of their size3. complain or cry

I wasn't complaining, I was mocking. You might note there's a difference between the two.

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3. complain or cry

I'm sooo sooo upset that you make yourself look like an idiot every time you open your mouth. Look at me cry about how absurd and stupid you look. That just hurts my feelings so much, Alterego.

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3. complain or cry
I'm sooo sooo upset that you make yourself look like an idiot every time you open your mouth. Look at me cry about how absurd and stupid you look. That just hurts my feelings so much, Alterego.

3. complain or cry

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"Your bullying and tyrannical behaviour will not be tolerated forever. You may think you're on top now, but you have already sewn the seeds of your own destruction. You are tragic villains, who will be brought low by your own hubris and the ire of those you have trampled underfoot. A reckoning is on its way."

I think I've said those exact words.

You'll be hearing from my lawers. Maybe.

Also, "moralism" as the term used here was just a propaganda tag pasted onto the enemies of those who created that tag in the first place in order to mock them. Everybody has morals and true moralism is just the study and application of such.

Nice post, though. I hate people who complain and don't act, too.

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CN is a game of stats and words, and both pillars are essential for success.

"OWF propaganda" (dressed/labeled as "moralism", or whatever) isn't everything, but it isn't irrelevant either. In other words, posting is already doing something.

(The only way to really do nothing in CN inter-alliance politics is to be neutral. I should know about that... ;) )

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CN is a game of stats and words, and both pillars are essential for success."OWF propaganda" (dressed/labeled as "moralism", or whatever) isn't everything, but it isn't irrelevant either. In other words, posting is already doing something.(The only way to really do nothing in CN inter-alliance politics is to be neutral. I should know about that... ;) )

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CN is a game of stats and words, and both pillars are essential for success."OWF propaganda" (dressed/labeled as "moralism", or whatever) isn't everything, but it isn't irrelevant either. In other words, posting is already doing something.(The only way to really do nothing in CN inter-alliance politics is to be neutral. I should know about that... ;) )
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Actually yes. If by posting you can bring people around to your way of thinking then that is inciting change without firing a shot. It's worked plenty of times in the past.

Wars in CN are won before anyone declares war. The biggest deciding factors are politics and propaganda, not nukes and whathaveyou.

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